May I ask what exactly was the egregious mistake of Kirsch's regarding Pfizer trial deaths? BTW, both of you may be interested also in looking at deaths per person year in the trials, which shows that the 21-17 ratio is more or less completely expected, as I have laid out here:
1. The NZ-graph you reproduced appears to have exactly the same time range. Steve's first tick mark is Dec'10.
2. Both of the reproduced vaccine rollout graphs are compatible with immediate death from the vaccines, with mortality rising slightly after vaccine rollout. I'd say the scale in your charts hides this. Also, deaths are mainly among the old, whereas vaccines are (as far as I understand) for all age groups, further muddying the waters on correlation. This point of course underlines your criticism that Steve's analysis was not stratified by age. But it doesn't disprove a connection to the vaccines, au contraire.
Arguing about mortality rates is on shaky foundations, no matter what. In August, 2020, I checked out the death rates in the US, Germany, Canada, Hungary, Britain, and Sweden, and fewer-than-usual people had died that year; there was no "pandemic" (pandemics don't exist, anyway, unless parasitic or bacterial infestations, along with areal poisonings are counted as such). A month later, official statistics started to be doctored, even retroactively, with the US armed forces going back as far as until 2015.
Areal poisoning (e.g. through chemtrails or by 5G), however, can fake a "pandemic."
Then, show that every single person in the planet should be suing Pfizer for deliberately injecting an undisclosed carcinogenic monkey virus (SV40) into the cell nucleus of the clueless biohacked, as officially recognized by Health Canada !!!
If he doesn’t like the topic, I’d show this video (all you need is 10 secs in the middle, who doesn’t have 10 seconds for you):
(caveat about the beginning: pot destroys your brain + “Raises Risk of Heart Attack and Stroke”)
9/11: two "planes", yet the third tower (WTC7) imploded, free falling on its footprint like in a controlled demolition. It was out of reach, and all 7 World Trade Center towers needed to be rebuilt, not the closer towers not belonging to World Trade Center... and the “owner” took an insurance policy for the WTC against terrorism, just months before, when no one was taking them … he didn’t show up for work precisely on 9/11 … just as his 2 grown up siblings (they never skipped work before). The inside information about the FUTURE 9/11 event helped masons make trillions by shorting the stock exchange: the records were deleted by the SEC so they wouldn't be prosecuted !!!
Please watch all of this! Your life depends on it, because there's a plan to murder 95% of the global population by 2050… written on the masonic Georgia guide-stones: “Maintain humanity under 500,000,000 … ”:
- J6: The false flag operation of the fake riot was planned, incited and guided by FBI agents, who broke into the Capitol !!! The same mason-plot was copy-pasted to disband the insurrection against the stolen elections in Brazil! All intel agencies (CIA, FBI, NSA) were founded by masons and are run by them for their own nefarious goals.
- At least since the 90s, vaccines are weaponized to reduce the population, for example:
1. Adding hCG to infertilize women: lab detected in 30 countries
2. Overpassing the FDA 10 ng limit to human DNA “contamination” by 2000%, thus causing neuro-damage (autism, asperger, tics, dyslexia in 29% of kids, etc.) and childhood cancer epidemic (n.b. leukemia, non-Hodgkin’s lymphomas)
- Their main source of power apart from sin-empowered demons? NOT a coincidence that the USA left dollar convertibility to gold in 1971, precisely triggering the exponential government deficit coupled with the trade deficit and inflation.
This is the Achilles’ heel of all nations: masonic and satanic secret societies counterfeit paper money and launder trillions with which they buy Banks, seats in the Federal Reserve (the only private run Central Bank in the world), political careers and parties, puppeticians, listed corporations, media, healthcare corporations and organizations, universities, foundations, judges, etc.:
1. Create an easy system for real money: private currencies/warrants based on real assets, goods, services, etc. (gold, corn, oil, distance/volume/weight transportation, labor human hour/minute, etc.)
2. Ban legal tender. Let the free markets decide which real-currencies/valuables/warrants they prefer to trade with
3. Ban paper-backed currencies (unlike real-backed ones of point 1.)
4. Enforce a Legal Banking Reserve of 100% of deposits (so banks don't create money based on air) and therefore there's no excuse for a Central Bank, because there would be no risk of bank-runs since all their loans are fully backed with deposits
Plllllease, on my knees, don’t believe me, just do your own homework by searching the following in yandex.com, mojeek.com (includes crawl date filter and substack search), gigablast.com, startpage.com, duckduckgo.com (not Google, Bing, Yahoo censors). The key terms to test them? Child Satanic Ritual Abuse, Child Satanic Ritual Murder.
President John Quincy Adams: “Masonry ought forever to be abolished. It is wrong - essentially wrong - a seed of evil, which can never produce any good.”
If you are a mason or know a mason, ask him to ask his 33° master to put in writing and sign it, who is "the great architect" and that he is not Lucifer. If he refuses, then he’ll know who he is really serving, Satan: tell him to get out of masonry NOW. Sooner or later he’ll be required to trample on a cross to get to a higher degree.
Confessions of ex-illuminati Ronald Bernard (all lodges obey the same master, Satan):
Arguing about mortality rates is on shaky foundations, no matter what. In August, 2020, I checked out the death rates in the US, Germany, Canada, Hungary, Britain, and Sweden, and fewer-than-usual people had died that year; there was no "pandemic" (pandemics don't exist, anyway, unless parasitic or bacterial infestations, along with areal poisonings are counted as such). A month later, official statistics started to be doctored, even retroactively, with the US armed forces going back as far as until 2015.
In the Pfizer and Moderna clinical trials, almost all excess vaccine-associated deaths were delayed by at least a few months post-vaccination. Within the first month after vaccination things looked "fine", almost no excess deaths were seen in the vaccine groups of the trials (there was a single death 3 days post-vaccine in the Pfizer trial- that's the only death in the first few weeks among the ~37,000 vaccine recipients in the Pfizer and Moderna trials combined). But by 6 months post-vaccine, the Pfizer and Moderna clinical trials BOTH had 40-50% excess cardiovascular deaths and 15-17% excess non-COVID deaths overall with vaccination compared to placebo. I am sure that you are capable of finding the trial mortality data in the 1 month and 6 month publications, but if you want links I can post them.
Anyway, besides the clinical trials, common sense also tells us that any mRNA vaccine-associated deaths have to be almost entirely long-term rather than immediate, given the numbers who got vaccinated per day in the US and elsewhere. Certainly there are immediate vaccine-related deaths, but those are extremely rare and much less common than the delayed vaccine-related deaths occurring more than a month later, as the clinical trials showed us. To summarize, insinuating that most vaccine-related deaths are immediate or short-term, and therefore drawing attention away from long-term unexpected deaths, only serves to give a very misleading impression that the vaccines are indeed safe.
I've responded in my orginal article. You need to explain the figure in that section. Let's stick to the data. EXPLAIN it.
https://kirschsubstack.com/p/attempts-to-discredit-the-new-zealand
See "the third article" section. thanks.
May I ask what exactly was the egregious mistake of Kirsch's regarding Pfizer trial deaths? BTW, both of you may be interested also in looking at deaths per person year in the trials, which shows that the 21-17 ratio is more or less completely expected, as I have laid out here:
https://open.substack.com/pub/wherearethenumbers/p/anomalous-patterns-of-mortality-and
A few other points:
1. The NZ-graph you reproduced appears to have exactly the same time range. Steve's first tick mark is Dec'10.
2. Both of the reproduced vaccine rollout graphs are compatible with immediate death from the vaccines, with mortality rising slightly after vaccine rollout. I'd say the scale in your charts hides this. Also, deaths are mainly among the old, whereas vaccines are (as far as I understand) for all age groups, further muddying the waters on correlation. This point of course underlines your criticism that Steve's analysis was not stratified by age. But it doesn't disprove a connection to the vaccines, au contraire.
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Arguing about mortality rates is on shaky foundations, no matter what. In August, 2020, I checked out the death rates in the US, Germany, Canada, Hungary, Britain, and Sweden, and fewer-than-usual people had died that year; there was no "pandemic" (pandemics don't exist, anyway, unless parasitic or bacterial infestations, along with areal poisonings are counted as such). A month later, official statistics started to be doctored, even retroactively, with the US armed forces going back as far as until 2015.
Areal poisoning (e.g. through chemtrails or by 5G), however, can fake a "pandemic."
Great arguments! What’s your best way to wake-up those who don’t want to open their eyes?
Please share your most effective wake-up strategies.
The more the awakened, the sooner this nightmare will be over!
If the person doesn’t want to discuss injections, then food is a good start:
Why is food poisoning legal?
How Rumsfeld forced the approval of Aspartame.
Artificial sweeteners, MSG, PFAS, Glyphosate ... go organic!
https://scientificprogress.substack.com/p/why-is-food-poisoning-legal
Then I’d follow with "Are you opened to see if the actual data matches your opinion?"
Then I start showing some of the shortcomings of the Pharma industry:
https://scientificprogress.substack.com/p/system-failure-ai-exposes-zero-government
Then, show that every single person in the planet should be suing Pfizer for deliberately injecting an undisclosed carcinogenic monkey virus (SV40) into the cell nucleus of the clueless biohacked, as officially recognized by Health Canada !!!
If he doesn’t like the topic, I’d show this video (all you need is 10 secs in the middle, who doesn’t have 10 seconds for you):
https://odysee.com/@ImpossiblyWackedOutWorld:f/WTC-7-Free-Falling:8
(caveat about the beginning: pot destroys your brain + “Raises Risk of Heart Attack and Stroke”)
9/11: two "planes", yet the third tower (WTC7) imploded, free falling on its footprint like in a controlled demolition. It was out of reach, and all 7 World Trade Center towers needed to be rebuilt, not the closer towers not belonging to World Trade Center... and the “owner” took an insurance policy for the WTC against terrorism, just months before, when no one was taking them … he didn’t show up for work precisely on 9/11 … just as his 2 grown up siblings (they never skipped work before). The inside information about the FUTURE 9/11 event helped masons make trillions by shorting the stock exchange: the records were deleted by the SEC so they wouldn't be prosecuted !!!
Watch amazing short and more evidence here:
https://scientificprogress.substack.com/p/911-2-planes-3-towers
Please watch all of this! Your life depends on it, because there's a plan to murder 95% of the global population by 2050… written on the masonic Georgia guide-stones: “Maintain humanity under 500,000,000 … ”:
https://scientificprogress.substack.com/p/depopulation-or-extermination
- J6: The false flag operation of the fake riot was planned, incited and guided by FBI agents, who broke into the Capitol !!! The same mason-plot was copy-pasted to disband the insurrection against the stolen elections in Brazil! All intel agencies (CIA, FBI, NSA) were founded by masons and are run by them for their own nefarious goals.
https://scientificprogress.substack.com/p/j6-what-you-need-to-know
It's such a mason manual that they organized the same J6 play in Brazil when it was proven that the voting machines owned by mason Soros, were rigged:
https://scientificprogress.substack.com/p/the-2020-american-coup
https://scientificprogress.substack.com/p/dominion-over-us
- At least since the 90s, vaccines are weaponized to reduce the population, for example:
1. Adding hCG to infertilize women: lab detected in 30 countries
2. Overpassing the FDA 10 ng limit to human DNA “contamination” by 2000%, thus causing neuro-damage (autism, asperger, tics, dyslexia in 29% of kids, etc.) and childhood cancer epidemic (n.b. leukemia, non-Hodgkin’s lymphomas)
Check soundchoice.org or videos at bottom after this page:
https://scientificprogress.substack.com/p/wake-up-videos
- COVID was designed as a primer for even more lethal COVID haccines:
https://scientificprogress.substack.com/p/the-real-covid-timeline
https://scientificprogress.substack.com/p/not-vaccine-not-gene-therapy-just
https://scientificprogress.substack.com/p/what-do-bioweapons-have-to-do-with
- Wake up videos:
https://scientificprogress.substack.com/p/wake-up-videos
https://scientificprogress.substack.com/p/2050-youll-go-nowhere-and-youll-be
- It's genocide for depopulation:
https://scientificprogress.substack.com/p/depop-vaccines-no-myth
- Their main source of power apart from sin-empowered demons? NOT a coincidence that the USA left dollar convertibility to gold in 1971, precisely triggering the exponential government deficit coupled with the trade deficit and inflation.
This is the Achilles’ heel of all nations: masonic and satanic secret societies counterfeit paper money and launder trillions with which they buy Banks, seats in the Federal Reserve (the only private run Central Bank in the world), political careers and parties, puppeticians, listed corporations, media, healthcare corporations and organizations, universities, foundations, judges, etc.:
Confessions of illuminati, David Rockefeller:
https://scientificprogress.substack.com/p/david-rockefeller-illuminati
Confessions of ex-illuminati Ronald Bernard (all lodges obey the same master, Satan):
http://youtu.be/JAhnCdXqPww
The way out of this mess:
1. Create an easy system for real money: private currencies/warrants based on real assets, goods, services, etc. (gold, corn, oil, distance/volume/weight transportation, labor human hour/minute, etc.)
2. Ban legal tender. Let the free markets decide which real-currencies/valuables/warrants they prefer to trade with
3. Ban paper-backed currencies (unlike real-backed ones of point 1.)
4. Enforce a Legal Banking Reserve of 100% of deposits (so banks don't create money based on air) and therefore there's no excuse for a Central Bank, because there would be no risk of bank-runs since all their loans are fully backed with deposits
Anything else you might think of?
Now, are you really ready for this?:
The full PLAN exposed:
https://scientificprogress.substack.com/p/the-plan-revealed
16 laws we need to exit Prison Planet
https://scientificprogress.substack.com/p/laws-to-exit-planet-prison
Plllllease, on my knees, don’t believe me, just do your own homework by searching the following in yandex.com, mojeek.com (includes crawl date filter and substack search), gigablast.com, startpage.com, duckduckgo.com (not Google, Bing, Yahoo censors). The key terms to test them? Child Satanic Ritual Abuse, Child Satanic Ritual Murder.
https://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/rpn5aj/i_have_found_the_perfect_uncensored_search_engines/
https://www.deepwebsiteslinks.com/uncensored-search-engines-for-anonymous-searching/
President John Quincy Adams: “Masonry ought forever to be abolished. It is wrong - essentially wrong - a seed of evil, which can never produce any good.”
If you are a mason or know a mason, ask him to ask his 33° master to put in writing and sign it, who is "the great architect" and that he is not Lucifer. If he refuses, then he’ll know who he is really serving, Satan: tell him to get out of masonry NOW. Sooner or later he’ll be required to trample on a cross to get to a higher degree.
Confessions of ex-illuminati Ronald Bernard (all lodges obey the same master, Satan):
http://youtu.be/JAhnCdXqPww
Confessions of a former mason (Serge Abad-Gallardo):
https://www.ncregister.com/interview/confessions-of-a-former-freemason-officer-converted-to-catholicism
Confession of 33rd degree master mason - Masons worship deities/demons
https://rumble.com/v294ksc-words-from-33rd-degree-master-mason-rare-video-masons-worship-all-sorts-of-.html
Masonry's Satanic Connection
https://odysee.com/@HiddenTruths:c/Masonry's-Satanic-Connection:4
Masonry's Satanic Doctrine | From Their Own Books
https://rumble.com/v2wg24a-masonrys-satanic-doctrine-from-their-own-books.html
Do Freemasons Worship Lucifer？ Evidence They Don't Want You To See
https://odysee.com/@John_4-14:a/Do-Freemasons-Worship-Lucifer%EF%BC%9F-Evidence-They-Don't-Want-You-To-See-%EF%BD%9C-Hidden-Agendas---Walter-Veith:0
Satanic Ritual Abuse and Secret Societies [1995] [VHS]
https://odysee.com/@thisworldworks:1/satanic-ritual-abuse-and-secret-societies-1995:3
Satanic Pedophilia Torture and Blood - Dark Satanic Secrets Revealed
https://odysee.com/@Gmail.com:52/822821884_Satanic-Pedophilia-Torture-and-Blood---Dark-Satanic-Secrets-Revealed:4
UNITED NATIONS LUCIFER AND THE LUCIFER TRUST
https://odysee.com/@dynosarus:c/UNITED-NATIONS-LUCIFER-AND-THE-LUCIFER-TRUST:4
WARNING! Weaponization of vaccines:
https://scientificprogress.substack.com/p/vaxxed-v-unvaxxed/
https://scientificprogress.substack.com/p/depopulation-or-extermination
https://scientificprogress.substack.com/p/depop-vaccines-no-myth
Arguing about mortality rates is on shaky foundations, no matter what. In August, 2020, I checked out the death rates in the US, Germany, Canada, Hungary, Britain, and Sweden, and fewer-than-usual people had died that year; there was no "pandemic" (pandemics don't exist, anyway, unless parasitic or bacterial infestations, along with areal poisonings are counted as such). A month later, official statistics started to be doctored, even retroactively, with the US armed forces going back as far as until 2015.
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In the Pfizer and Moderna clinical trials, almost all excess vaccine-associated deaths were delayed by at least a few months post-vaccination. Within the first month after vaccination things looked "fine", almost no excess deaths were seen in the vaccine groups of the trials (there was a single death 3 days post-vaccine in the Pfizer trial- that's the only death in the first few weeks among the ~37,000 vaccine recipients in the Pfizer and Moderna trials combined). But by 6 months post-vaccine, the Pfizer and Moderna clinical trials BOTH had 40-50% excess cardiovascular deaths and 15-17% excess non-COVID deaths overall with vaccination compared to placebo. I am sure that you are capable of finding the trial mortality data in the 1 month and 6 month publications, but if you want links I can post them.
Anyway, besides the clinical trials, common sense also tells us that any mRNA vaccine-associated deaths have to be almost entirely long-term rather than immediate, given the numbers who got vaccinated per day in the US and elsewhere. Certainly there are immediate vaccine-related deaths, but those are extremely rare and much less common than the delayed vaccine-related deaths occurring more than a month later, as the clinical trials showed us. To summarize, insinuating that most vaccine-related deaths are immediate or short-term, and therefore drawing attention away from long-term unexpected deaths, only serves to give a very misleading impression that the vaccines are indeed safe.